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Post by Thorny (Rob) on Jul 19, 2009 18:09:09 GMT -5
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Post by Raz on Jul 19, 2009 18:16:22 GMT -5
Rob, great pic's, great report and another job well done. You guys had the program of the day from what I heard. I need to learn the dipsy program. I fished for close to 3 hours and only managed one release. A clean 19" Salmon for the grill. It was on a small honeybee, orange and gold. I need to check on some of the honeybee larger spoons.
Thanks for the great report.
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Post by riversc on Jul 19, 2009 18:44:33 GMT -5
Hey thorny: Ed Rivers Pumpkinseed won I fished Whalon Bay this morning pretty rough on this side had my 12 year old grand son with me don't want to turn him off with rough seas we did one small lake down 44 feet on copper mooselook thin fin nice day but slow.Caught a 6 pound brown last sunday 44 down on a large stinger have you had any browns that size it is the largest so far for me. see ya
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Post by crazyivan on Jul 19, 2009 18:51:27 GMT -5
Thorny, Sounds like a nice day on the lake. Love the fact that you made some changes to the hook size and had great luck with that. Do you run snaps or just tied direct to the line? We have a new boat (when it runs)with different downriggers and everything and lure action has been a hough learning curve on this boat. Just wondering, love this kind of information. Todd
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 18:58:27 GMT -5
Rob,
Nice job changing the program to get the fish to fire. The dipsy was a good idea. The fish didn't seem to want the flash and hit close to the riggers today.
It was nice getting the Digitroll out (first time in 5 weeks) for a few hours this morning, but slow 1 for 2 fishing solo. Still nice to get out early and having the autopilot handle some of the driving when needed. Temp. break was at 70 feet today. Bites came 50-55 ft tight to the green blades. Went home shortly after 8:00 am.
Were you using the large dipsy or a smaller one?
Again, great report and the effort paid off.
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Post by dragnballs(Kevin) on Jul 19, 2009 19:15:54 GMT -5
way to go Rob we ended going 3 for 5 all on the # 2 bees they were the ones for today
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Post by tamiron on Jul 19, 2009 20:57:19 GMT -5
Rob:
Absolutely, a great job! You and your crew really handled the situation and let me borrow your eyes and your minds ... the perfect dream for a lure-maker.
As you mentioned in our discussion at some point today that one of our friends downsizes all his hooks (and he ties direct). He is getting the absolute best action at the slowest possible speed.
If anybody is running next to somebody else pulling the same size and color lures and matching their surface speed and direction separated by only a short distance, you may still not be on the same planet with that person unless you know the weight of his line, tie-direct or not, and finally the hardware on the lure itself.
If you think I am exaggerating, run two lures at the surface at the same time with the changes mentioned (probably need at least two guys with a rod and somebody driving!)
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Post by champlain fisher on Jul 19, 2009 21:33:44 GMT -5
Nice trip for sure. Nothing like the divers when the fish are pounding them. It is really cool to see the rod when they hit on a diver.
Would like a few details on the hook change over on the #2 bees as to did you replace the ring with a split ring and if you kept it the same size as the soild ring on them. Also was the smaller hook a swiash or treble? I have some #2 bees that have been spotty as well. The MP6 and #3 size have been real good.
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Post by Dinosaur454 (Dennis) on Jul 19, 2009 21:45:49 GMT -5
Is it just my imagination or is that ol' boy on the left in the 1st photo packing a "hog leg" on his hip? Or do I need new glasses?
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Post by Raz on Jul 20, 2009 5:00:01 GMT -5
Is it just my imagination or is that ol' boy on the left in the 1st photo packing a "hog leg" on his hip? Or do I need new glasses? Yes sir Dennis, I believe your right. Maybe he thought he'd run into some gators... or a big halibut he'd need to "pop" between the eyes. ;D ;D Then again, there's been pirate activity on the news this summer! Good eye's!
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Post by philb on Jul 20, 2009 5:16:31 GMT -5
Hello Rob
It was nice speaking to you yesterday. Sounds like again you did a great job sticking with it, changng up, and putting fish in the boat. Maybe if I want to catch some eyes I should just drag some spoons in the sea it sure seems to be working this year.
I almost came to the inland sea when we gave up on the broad lake but needed to mow my lawn I ignored for too long.
Thanks for the report Phil B
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Post by salmoneye on Jul 20, 2009 5:34:58 GMT -5
Is it just my imagination or is that ol' boy on the left in the 1st photo packing a "hog leg" on his hip? Or do I need new glasses? That's the handle of a knife...
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Post by MarknFish (Mark) on Jul 20, 2009 11:29:35 GMT -5
Rob - great report on mixing things up to keep on the fish. We can all learn a little by thinking outside our "normal" box.
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Post by An Bradon Charters on Jul 20, 2009 20:36:12 GMT -5
Rob, Great report. You had a very good day on the pond. Sunday there were more boats then have been out there in weeks. Smaller hooks???HMMM? I can remember taking some heat from guys who thought smaller hooks resulted in less hook ups this spring? ;D I have been switching out all my hooks for some time. But you did it for a different reason. Lure action. That is something that I never did for the same reason. I changed mine because I thought and still do think the smaller the hook the better. You have made me take another look. Thanks again for a great report. Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com
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Post by tamiron on Jul 21, 2009 0:29:10 GMT -5
Nice trip for sure. Nothing like the divers when the fish are pounding them. It is really cool to see the rod when they hit on a diver. Would like a few details on the hook change over on the #2 bees as to did you replace the ring with a split ring and if you kept it the same size as the solid ring on them. Also was the smaller hook a Siwash or treble? I have some #2 bees that have been spotty as well. The MP6 and #3 size have been real good. Commander: Good place for me to jump in. Most people think of the ring as something which joins the hook to the spoon. I don't look at it that way! The ring is a very integral part of our spoons. The hole on our spoons is smaller than anything on the market (that I am aware of). That's why we used welded rings and broke off the hooks whenever we wanted to make a change. The number of times I hit a hook point with a file, they are the first thing "to go". Open eye siwash hooks make for an easy change. The other alternative is to use fine wire split rings by WORTH. Again to my knowledge they are the best. Donj't try regular split rings. They usually do not work with our products. The Capt. has been experimenting with a smaller size split ring for the MP6s. If you can't get get WORTH rings, I will provide them. Size 4 works great on MP6 and #1. Size 5 or 6 works great on all other sizes 2,3,4,5. The hooks on the standard out of the package Bees are: #1 & MP6 = #1 #2 = #2/0 #3 = #1/0 #4 = #2/0 #5 = #3/0 The #2 was developed and balanced as a higher speed spoon to run with the OPTIMIZERS. Recently, we have been reviewing the sizes to see if downsizing the hook would give more consistent action at slower speeds. Thorny's report indicates that it does. All of our spoons are affected by the size of the hook. My recommendation is to develop a comfortable speed for the spread you want to run and then adjust hook size to allow for compatibility. That may sound like a "pain" but results will compensate for the "hurt". Take notes, and you will find that whenever conditions are approximately the same, it pays to start out with a program that has already worked before. Don't change presentation, lures, even colors to start. You will be thrilled at the "GO TO" programs you can develop for your boat
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