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Post by buckshot (Ben) on Jul 15, 2009 16:44:32 GMT -5
I have deffinetly seen and upswing in our salmon catch this year but the lamprey seem to be around in there usual strong summer fashion. I wish the state biologists did there studies this time of year when they are hooked onto every fish. We have seen some huge ones lately, up to 15.5 inches long. What is everyone that fishes regularly seeing this year?
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Post by lazycs (mike) on Jul 15, 2009 17:15:12 GMT -5
i haven't fished alot Ben but the salmon that we have brought in are definetly covered with lamprey.some as many as 2 or 3 attached, and like you say there are some size large on them. i dont know what they can do with the adult lamprey other than trapping them,there here pretty much here for there duration, what the treatments do is kill the next generations lamprey. im sure that others here know more about facts on them.
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Post by Thorny (Rob) on Jul 15, 2009 17:33:28 GMT -5
Ben 3 trips in the last 2 weeks. Shelburne, Inland Sea and Converse. Very bad in all 3 locations!! I am ankious to talk to the guys at the meeting tomorrow. Maybe they can shed some lite on the current situation. Thorny
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Post by instigator (Reggie) on Jul 15, 2009 19:39:15 GMT -5
Ben I have killed over 2 dozen lampres in the last 3-4 weeks, some fish had 3 on them I think its worse now, but is it because we are catching more fish for this time of year. did you see sinbads picture I hope he will see it, later Reggie
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Post by champlain fisher on Jul 15, 2009 21:22:35 GMT -5
Been seeing lamprey on a lot of the fish I have been catching as well. Haven't lucked into a lot of salmon and the ones I have got have been lamprey free. I got a 6-7 lb one earlier this summer that didn't have a mark on it. The lakers have had them but for the most part it is the only mark they have. There are more fish out there or I have just gotten better at catching them - I would like to think that it is both. As long as treatments continue like the past 3 years it will only get better. I have not seen any huge lamprey, most have been 6 to 8 inches so they are most likely from a stream that had not been treated yet. As long as we keep pushing for treatments we should only see things get better. Lets not forget about some of the huge lakers and salmon that have been caught and on the ends of our lines - a result of lamprey control.
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Post by Cas (Mike) on Jul 16, 2009 9:09:01 GMT -5
How many guys participate in NY's yearly creel survey? If you do, do you keep track of lamprey on each fish caught? It's another way of getting lamprey counts to the state.
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Post by champlain fisher on Jul 16, 2009 12:58:44 GMT -5
How many guys participate in NY's yearly creel survey? If you do, do you keep track of lamprey on each fish caught? It's another way of getting lamprey counts to the state. I try and call the N.Y. biologist several times a year and give him all the info I can, he asks a lot of questions as well. He is willing to listen and ask from those on the water, we could use more folks with that attitude. His name is Lance Durfey, if you call the region 5 office be sure to ask to talk to him or leave him a voicemail with your number -he is very good about adressing questions and listening to info.
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Post by An Bradon Charters on Jul 16, 2009 13:27:02 GMT -5
This spring we saw just about zero hits or lamprey. In the past 3 weeks I would estimate a solid 50% of the fish boated either have lamprey attached or very recent wounds. We have had a excellent season as far as numbers of fish. I am curious what the biologist say about seeing lamprey hits more later in the season. Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 14:06:08 GMT -5
I recall thru the years July and August the fresh wounds + attached lamprey exploded. This scenario went back to the early 80's. Especially the size increase. I don't believe this pattern has changed much.
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Post by Raz on Jul 16, 2009 20:03:32 GMT -5
Ron is pretty much correct. I was at the Lamoille River Lamprey control meeting tonight and Brian Chipman addressed Thornys question of "why are we seeing so many lamprey in the past few weeks compared to earlier in the spring?" Brian stated that usually about June, the newly transformed lamprey start hitting the lake from it's tribs. Prior to June, in the spring, the adult lamprey have left the lake for the tribs to "spawn". Therefore, much less if any, lamprey's found on the fish in the spring.
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Post by lazycs (mike) on Jul 16, 2009 20:31:29 GMT -5
thanks razzle for that info that explains why alot of the lamprey that ive taken off fish haven't really bored into the flesh yet. next ? do adult lamprey die after spawning or do they return to the lake?
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Post by dragnballs(Kevin) on Jul 16, 2009 21:00:08 GMT -5
Mike, I was at that meeting tonight also and Mr Chipman said that the adults spawn and die. Also it was good to see the forum was well represented tonight as there were 6 of us there
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Post by An Bradon Charters on Jul 16, 2009 21:03:29 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Thank you to the forum members, Thorny,Razzle Dazzle, Dragon Balls, Shoestringfisher, Mike P, that were able to make tonights lamprey meeting in Essex. Once again Brian Chipman of Fish and Wildlife and his colleagues did an outstanding job in educating the public and answering our questions and concerns. Thanks to all. Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com
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Post by ReelDrag on Jul 16, 2009 21:33:35 GMT -5
Very informative posts. I am sorry I could not make the meeting. I have written a letter of support for the program and have sent it off. Were there any representatives from from organizations such as LCI, HAT, etc? I hope the permit is granted.
RD
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Post by mikep on Jul 16, 2009 22:35:53 GMT -5
Reeldrag,
What is HAT, there was one person there representing endangered species and was concerned about mudpuppies among other things. Frank Stanley was there representing something. LCI was not there unless they did not speak up.
Brain Chipman of Vermont fish and Game did a real good review of the Lamoille Treatment Plan and the science. they are truly dedicated to reduction of Lamprey.
MikeP
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