Post by bomber on Jan 23, 2011 7:54:42 GMT -5
Linda, for now this will be my last statement on this issue but I will be following it closely.
I don't live my life in any fear. I feel very comfortable, safe and sleep very well. I have chosen to raise my family and stay in Vermont my entire life because of the factors you mention. The reason Vermont is a safe place to live is because we take care of ourselves, families and neighbors. We all are armed and the criminals know this. Criminals prefer to pray on folks that don't have any way to defend themselves.
Our guns aren't locked away but available if we need them. You can pass all the laws you want but we will never obey them.
When the government takes away the right to defend yourself then it is no longer a government of the people. All people have the right to self defense. Remember this when your thinking about more laws to pass.
I wish you well in coming up with new ways to prevent teen suicides. Don't chose to pass restrictions on our rights as citizens of Vermont. We have a right to self defense.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson
To: Bill Birch
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
You sound incredibly responsible and your kids and grandkids are lucky to have someone who has been able to teach them the fundamentals of firearm safety. Unfortunately, not every parent/grandparent has made the same effort and we seem to have an uptick in teen injuries and fatalities. I am very open to hearing other ideas about how we can do better to ensure that our kids are safe. I believe that we all need to be heard on this issue.
I probably have a greater risk of someone breaking down my door than you do in Readsboro. If I lived my life with such fear, I don’t think I’d be able to leave my home. The fact is that VT has one of the lowest crime rates in the country – you are much more likely to see an accidental injury to a loved one than a home invasion. As you said, we have to agree to disagree but it is worthwhile for me to better understand your perspective.
Linda
On 1/22/11 1:48 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
Linda, we will have to agree to disagree.
There were a couple paragraphs in my last email that your didn't respond to. I'll reprint them below.
Are you aware that in Vermont, kids can owe their own guns. Our children start hunting when they can walk in the forest. Most children that spend the majority of time with their parents and learn the Vermont traditions of hunting and fishing do not kill themselves. They look forward to everyday and enjoy life. My 11 year old grandson shot his first deer this past year. He owns a 30-30 and shoots very well. Next year he will hunt by himself with me close by. This is what teaches children responsibility, not passing more laws to limit their choices.
When I'm not sleeping and my pistol must be stored under lock and key what happens if someone starts breaking my door down. Will I have time to open the lock and retrieve my pistol. We have had homes broken into in my town recently. Should I call you to come save me.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
I would just remind you that our gun-loving neighbors to the east have not gone down the camel’s nose path that you fear and I would expect Vermont to follow suit with protection of our constitutional rights. I am not a nanny state politician but if I think there’s a problem that can be solved by people of this state working together, then I’ll propose it. If you had an opportunity to save a life by making a small change in your daily practices, why wouldn’t you want to do that?
Regarding your other comments, I do not believe that rural Vermonters are ignorant – in fact, there is much wisdom in the traditions here. While I am not a hunter, I respect that hunting is a tradition here and one that I would not propose changing. I fully agree that the weight of our laws is often burdensome, but the process of weighing benefits to the public good (keeping our kids safe) and changing behavior through the law is something we ought to do with all seriousness – and all voices should be a part of that process.
Linda
On 1/22/11 6:45 AM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
Linda, I'm communicating with many gun owners in Vermont as we are hooked up in this day of internet messaging. I'm sharing your information with them and non are happy with your solutions.
Unfortunately, you are another nanny state politician that knows what is best for Vermonters. When your first law doesn't work and the camel has its nose under the tent then you will pass a second law and then a third.
I've told many Reps. & Senators that the only time we are truly safe is when the house isn't in session. You are there to pass more laws and by God, laws you will pass. Someday the law books will have to be carried by forklift.
Are you aware that in Vermont, kids can owe their own guns. Our children start hunting when they can walk in the forest. Most children that spend the majority of time with their parents and learn the Vermont traditions of hunting and fishing do not kill themselves. They look forward to everyday and enjoy life. My 11 year old grandson shot his first deer this past year. He owns a 30-30 and shoots very well. Next year he will hunt by himself with me close by. This is what teaches children responsibility, not passing more laws to limit their choices.
Just because you get the support of some police don't think that they know what is best for us poor ignorant Vermont hicks.
When I'm not sleeping and my pistol must be stored under lock and key what happens if someone starts breaking my door down. Will I have time to open the lock and retrieve my pistol. We have had homes broken into in my town recently. Should I call you to come save me.
Your last paragraph tells me all I need to know. Folks that have lived in the city always bring the same solutions that didn't work there to Vermont to impose on us.
Nothing will change your mind accept the majority of gun owners contacting their Reps., and Senators to keep you folks in check. You will always know what is best for us. Take your solutions to some local Sportsmen's Clubs or shooting clubs and explain it to them. We have seen what happens in those 27 states and we don't like it.
The CDC is nothing but an acronym for gun control.
We are trying to keep Vermont traditions alive and have become very vigilant when the house is open for the peoples business.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
Here is a powerpoint from Dr. Elliot Nelson, a pediatric injury prevention specialist at Fletcher Allen. He has a number of information sources cited. I have seen a lot of additional research which would overload most people but the CDC has collected information readily available on their website. The point to having hearings on these bills is to make all the information available so that we can have an informed discussion. If taken up by committee, bills often get changed quite drastically from the time they are introduced based on the testimony that Vermonters offer. I just got off the phone with a constituent who is a local police officer as well as a lifelong member of the NRA and he thought that we should charge everyone who is found guilty of negligent storage – and he’s a native Vermonter. Just goes to show, we have the gamut of opinions on the matter.
Regarding your other questions:
The most successful efforts to change behavior often involve putting criminal penalties in place for non-compliance.
There is no provision in the bill for anyone to check on how you are storing your firearms. If you don’t have kids around, the bill wouldn’t have any impact on you whatsoever. The penalties are applied only with negligent storage and when kids are reasonably expected to be around and there is injury or death resulting – all of that is determined after the fact so that the District Attorney’s office would have some discretion about when to apply the penalties.
There is no second amendment violation – there is no restriction on who can have a gun, where you can have it or anything else. It is a bill that mandates personal responsibility with storage which has passed constitutional muster in 27 other states.
This bill would not prevent you from sleeping with a loaded pistol under your pillow, if that’s what it takes to make you feel secure in your home. We are only asking that the weapon be stored properly and kept out of the hands of juveniles once you get up.
Finally, I am a Vermonter by choice. I have lived in cities and out in the wilds of Alaska....lots of different experiences to inform my perspective. I choose to stay here everyday because it is a wonderful place to raise a family. I have gone nose to nose with brown bear and bison; I’ve been mugged in cities and I’ve seen the breadth of human compassion and human grief. I try to be equitable and fair in my work and I am grateful that people take the time to talk to me and share their concerns.
Linda
On 1/21/11 8:16 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
I have no problem educating gun owners about responsible storage but when you take it to the next level and have them arrested then that is an issue. Will you send someone to my house to check to see if my guns are all locked up.
What if I want a gun at the ready in case someone breaks into my home. I live in the country and we have no police in our town. We are on our own. By the time the state police get to you it is to late. When someone is breaking into to your home you don't have time to unlock your gun.
Lets go with the better education about teen depression. I don't object to any of your solutions but it sounds like your equating wearing seatbelts and drivers test with the 2nd amendment.
Many Vermonters live in the woods and backroads and have no police protection just like me. We are responsible for our own protection. When someone is intent on doing you or your family bodily harm there isn't time to unlock you gun.
Please send me your facts on your statement of the highest per capital rate of teen firearms fatalities in New England.
Educating gun owners on gun safety is much different then arresting them for unlocked guns.
Linda, I would like to ask if you are a life time Vermonter or moved here from the city? The only reason I'm asking is that folks that move here from the city always seem to want to bring their city solutions with them. They don't work out here in the mountains where we're responsible for our own welfare.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
Interesting – I’m a gun owner in my district and I would never leave my guns unlocked, loaded and ready for my kids to get into when I’m not looking. We have the highest per capita rate of teen firearm fatalities in New England and frankly, I think we should all want to do better than that. This conversation should be focused on solving a problem, particularly in light of loosing 2 teens this week - and whether or not that includes a provision for safe storage or just better education about teen depression, I am finding it very difficult to put my head down and pretend that we don’t have a problem here. We have a number of police chiefs as well as pediatricians, child safety advocates and mental health workers who are ready to look at the information that has been collected in our state and elsewhere in the country. Can you tell me why you object to that? We mandate that people use seatbelts – it is the law. We mandate that people take a drivers’ test before we turn them loose on the roads – it’s the law. We put people in jail for shooting deer out of season – it’s the law. Why is it so out of bounds to ask that we do a better job educating gun owners about responsible storage?
Linda Waite-Simpson
On 1/21/11 4:29 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
We have a very low rate of gun misuse here in Vermont. My children were taught at a early age how to handle guns and how dangerous they are.
A gun is a tool, just like a knife. Children can harm themselves with medicines but we don't mandate locking all our medicines up. We leave it to the parents to look after their children.
Linda, your doing the old, the state knows better then the parents therefore if you don't lock your guns up we'll lock you up. We may lock the children's friends, grandparents and anyone else that doesn't do what the state mandates.
When someone decides they are going to commit suicide they can always find a way.
Because the NRA advocates for safe storage they will not back you on your push for a law to lock up gun owners. I've been an NRA member for 35 years.
I thank you for your response. The state of Vermont has 100,000 hunters and the majority of Vermont homes have guns. Be thankful that Vermont has one of the lowest murder rates in the country.
I'm sure that many of the gun owners in your district are right now regretting their vote.
Linda, please try to get away from the notion that the state knows best. Let Vermonters live their own lifes and take care of their children. Their will always be suicides.
I'm sending a copy of this to Outdoors Magazine so that all gun owners in the state will be aware of your actions.
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
Mr. Birch,
Thank you for contacting me and sharing your concerns. I am open to having a civil conversation about how we can do a better job keeping our kids safe. Child access prevention isn’t about being a democrat or republican – it’s about holding people accountable for negligent actions. New Hampshire passed a similar law a decade ago – with a republican legislature. There are 27 states with this law on the books and there is an abundance of evidence showing that it is an important component of child safety initiatives (the NRA actually advocates for safe storage when juveniles are present.) There has been much research on firearm fatalities and injuries and I am asking that Vermonters consider the evidence and work together to build a safer world for our kids.
Linda Waite-Simpson
On 1/20/11 11:41 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
Typical reaction from a democrat. Blame the owner of the weapon. It only happens if its a gun.
If the teen took a car and drove it into a tree would you blame the parent? No.
We will work hard to see that you are not elected again.
Gun owners in Vermont are very responsible. I will be contacting my Reps. & senator to make sure this doesn't see the light of day.
Why the state of Vt. keeps electing Democrats is beyond me. The first thing they always want to do is give us more rules to live by. We are controled by the population in Burlington.
Believe me, many of us that live and work in Vermont don't agree with your big government solutions.
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
I don't live my life in any fear. I feel very comfortable, safe and sleep very well. I have chosen to raise my family and stay in Vermont my entire life because of the factors you mention. The reason Vermont is a safe place to live is because we take care of ourselves, families and neighbors. We all are armed and the criminals know this. Criminals prefer to pray on folks that don't have any way to defend themselves.
Our guns aren't locked away but available if we need them. You can pass all the laws you want but we will never obey them.
When the government takes away the right to defend yourself then it is no longer a government of the people. All people have the right to self defense. Remember this when your thinking about more laws to pass.
I wish you well in coming up with new ways to prevent teen suicides. Don't chose to pass restrictions on our rights as citizens of Vermont. We have a right to self defense.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson
To: Bill Birch
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
You sound incredibly responsible and your kids and grandkids are lucky to have someone who has been able to teach them the fundamentals of firearm safety. Unfortunately, not every parent/grandparent has made the same effort and we seem to have an uptick in teen injuries and fatalities. I am very open to hearing other ideas about how we can do better to ensure that our kids are safe. I believe that we all need to be heard on this issue.
I probably have a greater risk of someone breaking down my door than you do in Readsboro. If I lived my life with such fear, I don’t think I’d be able to leave my home. The fact is that VT has one of the lowest crime rates in the country – you are much more likely to see an accidental injury to a loved one than a home invasion. As you said, we have to agree to disagree but it is worthwhile for me to better understand your perspective.
Linda
On 1/22/11 1:48 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
Linda, we will have to agree to disagree.
There were a couple paragraphs in my last email that your didn't respond to. I'll reprint them below.
Are you aware that in Vermont, kids can owe their own guns. Our children start hunting when they can walk in the forest. Most children that spend the majority of time with their parents and learn the Vermont traditions of hunting and fishing do not kill themselves. They look forward to everyday and enjoy life. My 11 year old grandson shot his first deer this past year. He owns a 30-30 and shoots very well. Next year he will hunt by himself with me close by. This is what teaches children responsibility, not passing more laws to limit their choices.
When I'm not sleeping and my pistol must be stored under lock and key what happens if someone starts breaking my door down. Will I have time to open the lock and retrieve my pistol. We have had homes broken into in my town recently. Should I call you to come save me.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
I would just remind you that our gun-loving neighbors to the east have not gone down the camel’s nose path that you fear and I would expect Vermont to follow suit with protection of our constitutional rights. I am not a nanny state politician but if I think there’s a problem that can be solved by people of this state working together, then I’ll propose it. If you had an opportunity to save a life by making a small change in your daily practices, why wouldn’t you want to do that?
Regarding your other comments, I do not believe that rural Vermonters are ignorant – in fact, there is much wisdom in the traditions here. While I am not a hunter, I respect that hunting is a tradition here and one that I would not propose changing. I fully agree that the weight of our laws is often burdensome, but the process of weighing benefits to the public good (keeping our kids safe) and changing behavior through the law is something we ought to do with all seriousness – and all voices should be a part of that process.
Linda
On 1/22/11 6:45 AM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
Linda, I'm communicating with many gun owners in Vermont as we are hooked up in this day of internet messaging. I'm sharing your information with them and non are happy with your solutions.
Unfortunately, you are another nanny state politician that knows what is best for Vermonters. When your first law doesn't work and the camel has its nose under the tent then you will pass a second law and then a third.
I've told many Reps. & Senators that the only time we are truly safe is when the house isn't in session. You are there to pass more laws and by God, laws you will pass. Someday the law books will have to be carried by forklift.
Are you aware that in Vermont, kids can owe their own guns. Our children start hunting when they can walk in the forest. Most children that spend the majority of time with their parents and learn the Vermont traditions of hunting and fishing do not kill themselves. They look forward to everyday and enjoy life. My 11 year old grandson shot his first deer this past year. He owns a 30-30 and shoots very well. Next year he will hunt by himself with me close by. This is what teaches children responsibility, not passing more laws to limit their choices.
Just because you get the support of some police don't think that they know what is best for us poor ignorant Vermont hicks.
When I'm not sleeping and my pistol must be stored under lock and key what happens if someone starts breaking my door down. Will I have time to open the lock and retrieve my pistol. We have had homes broken into in my town recently. Should I call you to come save me.
Your last paragraph tells me all I need to know. Folks that have lived in the city always bring the same solutions that didn't work there to Vermont to impose on us.
Nothing will change your mind accept the majority of gun owners contacting their Reps., and Senators to keep you folks in check. You will always know what is best for us. Take your solutions to some local Sportsmen's Clubs or shooting clubs and explain it to them. We have seen what happens in those 27 states and we don't like it.
The CDC is nothing but an acronym for gun control.
We are trying to keep Vermont traditions alive and have become very vigilant when the house is open for the peoples business.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
Here is a powerpoint from Dr. Elliot Nelson, a pediatric injury prevention specialist at Fletcher Allen. He has a number of information sources cited. I have seen a lot of additional research which would overload most people but the CDC has collected information readily available on their website. The point to having hearings on these bills is to make all the information available so that we can have an informed discussion. If taken up by committee, bills often get changed quite drastically from the time they are introduced based on the testimony that Vermonters offer. I just got off the phone with a constituent who is a local police officer as well as a lifelong member of the NRA and he thought that we should charge everyone who is found guilty of negligent storage – and he’s a native Vermonter. Just goes to show, we have the gamut of opinions on the matter.
Regarding your other questions:
The most successful efforts to change behavior often involve putting criminal penalties in place for non-compliance.
There is no provision in the bill for anyone to check on how you are storing your firearms. If you don’t have kids around, the bill wouldn’t have any impact on you whatsoever. The penalties are applied only with negligent storage and when kids are reasonably expected to be around and there is injury or death resulting – all of that is determined after the fact so that the District Attorney’s office would have some discretion about when to apply the penalties.
There is no second amendment violation – there is no restriction on who can have a gun, where you can have it or anything else. It is a bill that mandates personal responsibility with storage which has passed constitutional muster in 27 other states.
This bill would not prevent you from sleeping with a loaded pistol under your pillow, if that’s what it takes to make you feel secure in your home. We are only asking that the weapon be stored properly and kept out of the hands of juveniles once you get up.
Finally, I am a Vermonter by choice. I have lived in cities and out in the wilds of Alaska....lots of different experiences to inform my perspective. I choose to stay here everyday because it is a wonderful place to raise a family. I have gone nose to nose with brown bear and bison; I’ve been mugged in cities and I’ve seen the breadth of human compassion and human grief. I try to be equitable and fair in my work and I am grateful that people take the time to talk to me and share their concerns.
Linda
On 1/21/11 8:16 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
I have no problem educating gun owners about responsible storage but when you take it to the next level and have them arrested then that is an issue. Will you send someone to my house to check to see if my guns are all locked up.
What if I want a gun at the ready in case someone breaks into my home. I live in the country and we have no police in our town. We are on our own. By the time the state police get to you it is to late. When someone is breaking into to your home you don't have time to unlock your gun.
Lets go with the better education about teen depression. I don't object to any of your solutions but it sounds like your equating wearing seatbelts and drivers test with the 2nd amendment.
Many Vermonters live in the woods and backroads and have no police protection just like me. We are responsible for our own protection. When someone is intent on doing you or your family bodily harm there isn't time to unlock you gun.
Please send me your facts on your statement of the highest per capital rate of teen firearms fatalities in New England.
Educating gun owners on gun safety is much different then arresting them for unlocked guns.
Linda, I would like to ask if you are a life time Vermonter or moved here from the city? The only reason I'm asking is that folks that move here from the city always seem to want to bring their city solutions with them. They don't work out here in the mountains where we're responsible for our own welfare.
Thank You
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
Interesting – I’m a gun owner in my district and I would never leave my guns unlocked, loaded and ready for my kids to get into when I’m not looking. We have the highest per capita rate of teen firearm fatalities in New England and frankly, I think we should all want to do better than that. This conversation should be focused on solving a problem, particularly in light of loosing 2 teens this week - and whether or not that includes a provision for safe storage or just better education about teen depression, I am finding it very difficult to put my head down and pretend that we don’t have a problem here. We have a number of police chiefs as well as pediatricians, child safety advocates and mental health workers who are ready to look at the information that has been collected in our state and elsewhere in the country. Can you tell me why you object to that? We mandate that people use seatbelts – it is the law. We mandate that people take a drivers’ test before we turn them loose on the roads – it’s the law. We put people in jail for shooting deer out of season – it’s the law. Why is it so out of bounds to ask that we do a better job educating gun owners about responsible storage?
Linda Waite-Simpson
On 1/21/11 4:29 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
We have a very low rate of gun misuse here in Vermont. My children were taught at a early age how to handle guns and how dangerous they are.
A gun is a tool, just like a knife. Children can harm themselves with medicines but we don't mandate locking all our medicines up. We leave it to the parents to look after their children.
Linda, your doing the old, the state knows better then the parents therefore if you don't lock your guns up we'll lock you up. We may lock the children's friends, grandparents and anyone else that doesn't do what the state mandates.
When someone decides they are going to commit suicide they can always find a way.
Because the NRA advocates for safe storage they will not back you on your push for a law to lock up gun owners. I've been an NRA member for 35 years.
I thank you for your response. The state of Vermont has 100,000 hunters and the majority of Vermont homes have guns. Be thankful that Vermont has one of the lowest murder rates in the country.
I'm sure that many of the gun owners in your district are right now regretting their vote.
Linda, please try to get away from the notion that the state knows best. Let Vermonters live their own lifes and take care of their children. Their will always be suicides.
I'm sending a copy of this to Outdoors Magazine so that all gun owners in the state will be aware of your actions.
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Waite-Simpson <mailto:linda.simpson7@comcast.net>
To: Bill Birch <mailto:hunter993@myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Would tougher gun laws save lives
Mr. Birch,
Thank you for contacting me and sharing your concerns. I am open to having a civil conversation about how we can do a better job keeping our kids safe. Child access prevention isn’t about being a democrat or republican – it’s about holding people accountable for negligent actions. New Hampshire passed a similar law a decade ago – with a republican legislature. There are 27 states with this law on the books and there is an abundance of evidence showing that it is an important component of child safety initiatives (the NRA actually advocates for safe storage when juveniles are present.) There has been much research on firearm fatalities and injuries and I am asking that Vermonters consider the evidence and work together to build a safer world for our kids.
Linda Waite-Simpson
On 1/20/11 11:41 PM, "Bill Birch" <hunter993@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
Typical reaction from a democrat. Blame the owner of the weapon. It only happens if its a gun.
If the teen took a car and drove it into a tree would you blame the parent? No.
We will work hard to see that you are not elected again.
Gun owners in Vermont are very responsible. I will be contacting my Reps. & senator to make sure this doesn't see the light of day.
Why the state of Vt. keeps electing Democrats is beyond me. The first thing they always want to do is give us more rules to live by. We are controled by the population in Burlington.
Believe me, many of us that live and work in Vermont don't agree with your big government solutions.
Bill Birch
Readsboro, Vt.