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Post by encoregermain on Feb 14, 2011 23:36:38 GMT -5
the Bruce power societies of Ontario is going 2 transport by boat on lake Ontario and the st-Lawrence seaway 16 nuclear radioactive genératers is this the way 2 contaminate are waters are fish and wild life something as 2 by done just think about CHALK RIVER anglers must stand up again-ts this
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Post by maefly on Feb 15, 2011 10:43:28 GMT -5
the Bruce power societies of Ontario is going 2 transport by boat on lake Ontario and the st-Lawrence seaway 16 nuclear radioactive genératers is this the way 2 contaminate are waters are fish and wild life something as 2 by done just think about CHALK RIVER anglers must stand up again-ts this Better than chugging down the highway...and look at the brite side, if there's an accident it wont affect the fish, THEY ALREADY HAVE WEBBED FEET!!! ;D
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Post by in t h e o f f i c e on Feb 15, 2011 16:36:14 GMT -5
huh?
I thought this was a post about a new Surprise fly...
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Post by dukdog on Apr 20, 2011 13:41:37 GMT -5
I'm confident that the shipment is safe! If a barge was to turn over, the generators will be under water which is the best shielding there is. Most likely these are Steam Generators which are totally sealed up. All contamination is internal. Any external contamination would be of the fixed variety and not a threat for release. The type of radiation being emitted from something like a generator is essentially all beta and gamma unless the plant had a fuel leak . Beta can't even penetrate a sheet of paper. I worked in Nuclear power for over 40 years. Nuclear Submarines for 6 years, Commercial Nuclear Operations for 28 years as a Senior Reactor Operator and I've spent the last 10 years working on Nuclear decommissionings and dry fuel storage.
The rules affecting shipment of radioactive materials are very stringent. They aren't moving these thing willy nilly up the creek. I'm not sure what their destination is but Spring is typically the time to ship by water. Water levels are up making deep draft transport easier. When we shipped the Reactor Vessel out of Maine Yankee, the water levels turned out to be so low in the Savannah River that year that it had to sit near the mouth of the river waiting for a year. The next year, water levels were up and it went up the river for disposal at a disposal site. I suspect that these generators may be going to the same place that was.
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Post by fishinmachine on Apr 20, 2011 15:27:29 GMT -5
its nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about...thanks dukdog
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Post by buckshot (Ben) on Apr 20, 2011 19:03:48 GMT -5
Im all for nuke power, we had one in our town and they decommissioned it. now the town is slowly dieing a slow death of no employment. These plants not only provide lots of clean power but employ thousands of workers. Thanks dukdog
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Post by fishing eagle on Apr 22, 2011 22:44:46 GMT -5
Yes all the tree huggers get all excited when someone talks about the possibility of building a nuclear power plant. I wonder if they ever think about the nucelar powered submarines, aircraft carriers and now many other smaller Navy ships that are travelling all over the world to protect their tree hugging butt.
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Post by JabberJaws on Apr 23, 2011 18:24:51 GMT -5
They are probably against having an effective military and go ethanol. I shall now step off my soapbox. Ramel
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Post by RecordBraker on Apr 23, 2011 19:07:15 GMT -5
All for it. Just be CAREFUL not to %&$* THIS UP!!! BEN MARRIED 15 YEARS . i HAVE 3 BOYS , 3,5 6!! WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ENJOY THIS AS LONG AS I HAVE!!
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Post by dukdog on Apr 25, 2011 9:13:43 GMT -5
If you want to talk about Nuclear waste, I did the Dry fuel storage at Maine Yankee. Almost 30 years of generation and the waste fuel only filled 60 canisters that were 5&1/2 feet in diameter and 14 feet long. They were all placed in Vertical Concrete casks and are stored in a fenced locked guarded enclosure about the size of a football field. If you took the waste from an equivalent amount of coal generation, You'd have a couple Mount Mansfields worth of flyash!!! Not to mention the chit that's in the air and the acid rain.
People talk about how long nuclear waste is going to last, how long do you think a mountain of flyash will be around??? Grey crappy dust forever!!
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Post by in t h e o f f i c e on Apr 25, 2011 9:26:04 GMT -5
We need two more nukes with 3 times the generating capacity each at the Vermont Yankee site to replace the existing "tool" that is past its lifespan. Should we decommission VY? No. 6 times the capacity please.
Hydro Quebec has ample market availability from NYC to Albany. Vermonters need the low electric rates experienced by the hydro consumers in the Georgia and Carolinas. NOT the projected rates from HQ.
My 2c.
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Post by dukdog on Apr 25, 2011 14:18:47 GMT -5
We need two more nukes with 3 times the generating capacity each at the Vermont Yankee site to replace the existing "tool" that is past its lifespan. Should we decommission VY? No. 6 times the capacity please. My 2c. Unfortunately, You'd just about cook the river with that much rejected heat being put into the water so putting more plants there would not be feasable. Don't forget Northfield Mountain is also on that stretch of river upstream of Turners falls dam. That doesn't add heat but it does use a lot of water. Originally Montague Mass was was supposed to get 2 plants on the river. This was about 1975 or 76. The Anti's snuck onto the property and dropped a 425 foot Meteorilogical tower by unboltign the support wire cables. Northeast Utilities promptly dropped the plans for the plants after that. That wasn't the driving factor but the economy was bad at the time and NU had to delay completion of construction of Millstone Unit 3 in Connecticut. Northfield Mountain is a pumped storage facility where the water is pumped up the mountain at night when power is cheap. VY would put the juice on the grid and Northfield would use it essentially when the demand on the grid was low. Then during the daytime when more power was needed on the grid, Northfield would let down and make power to sell for more money. A very efficient way to make money. The river from Vernon to Turners Falls rises during the day and falls at night as the water is pumped up the mountain.
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