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Post by ballsdeep5 on Feb 9, 2011 21:26:27 GMT -5
Haven’t posted in a very long time but still keep up with all you guys. This is by far the best forum ever and proud I am a part of it! To get right to the point – I am in the market for a new boat and have a Proline Stalker 201 WA all lined up but need one last bit of advice. And what better place to ask! The question - is it ideal to run your downrigger (big jon) directly over the kicker motor? I would like extend one downrigger outward from the sidewall and the other one directly over the kick motor. Ideally giving me the opportunity to run two downriggers on both sides of the sidewall. Any advice would be very much appreciated! Hope all is surviving the snow!!! Thank you!
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Post by fishinmachine on Feb 10, 2011 5:28:30 GMT -5
how will you get the cannonball and release in reach without banging the cannonball into the motor?, I run my 4 footers to the side and the short ones directly aft of the gunnels.I wish I could show you a picture but the boat is still in storage
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Post by Goldie Lox on Feb 10, 2011 12:56:53 GMT -5
I have mine just to the side of the kicker motor. I haven't ever had a problem yet.
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Post by Goldie Lox on Feb 10, 2011 12:58:42 GMT -5
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Post by Thorny (Rob) on Feb 11, 2011 6:42:25 GMT -5
Ballsdeep5 As long as your boom extends well beyond your motor as in scales pic you should not have a problem. You may have to pivot the rigger off the corner to set it up and then put it in position off the transom. No problems on a calm day as in the pic. Be very carefull on windy,wavy days. Swinging cannon balls dammage engines! Thorny
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Post by fishing eagle on Feb 11, 2011 17:39:16 GMT -5
Having my downrigger line above the kicker or in line with the kicker prop kind of scares me. Let's face it... we have lost our attention at one time or another while fishing (especially while playing a fish) and the wind or current has caught our boat and spun it off course. What a great way to make it all worse when the downrigger cable ends up wrapped around the prop. That sounds like trouble and money to me.
My downrigger are mounted on the gunwales and I have adjustable booms that extend out to 5 feet. I normally run the booms extended to 30 inches and my kicker motor is on the port side of my boat with an 8 ft beam. When turning direction to port I pay attention because with the right conditions I see my downrigger cable going below the kicker prop. I have never put a downrigger cable into a prop and hope I never have that happen but I can see how it is more than possible. I have put a fishing line in the prop at least once in my lifetime and that sucks, never mind a steel cable.
Plus I can see a swinging downrigger ball in rough conditions doing its harm. I adjust my downrigger balls to be just below the water line for when I put it on auto retrieve it isn't swinging in free air and becoming a pendulum looking to damage my boat while I am trying to boat my fish.
I say why temp fate... keep the downrigger away from the trolling motor.
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Post by reeldeal on Feb 11, 2011 18:59:16 GMT -5
I run a Big Jon rigger over my kicker and have had no problems........... knock on wood, but I would suggest a swivel base to avoid the ball & motor problem but you do have to be carefull . Also a lure run in the prop wash can be very deadly!
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Post by fishing eagle on Feb 11, 2011 19:38:14 GMT -5
I do agree with you that a lure in the prop wash can bring some good results. Yet, to really have the effect of the prop wash, you usually need to run the lure toward the surface, so there are number of ways to run the lure in the wash. I found that changing course of my boat also helps imitate a bite and moves the lures in & out of the prop wash too.
My downriggers are on swivel bases and with the adjustable 60" boom, I could place my downrigger ball directly behind the kicker prop but that still makes me a bit nervous. I am not the only person to be fishing or operating the downriggers aboard my boat. Plus sometimes I do take some real novices fishing. We all have seen what can happen at different times when folks are rigging their lines into the release. Having people using the booms set out more than 30 inches or swiveling the downriggers around just makes for more mistakes.
I am not trying to argue this point but just giving my opinion and 2 cents worth. Hopefully for ballsdeep5 or others to read different theories and then they can make their own choice. That is why I enjoy this forum... great input from everyone.
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Post by wellsley on Feb 15, 2011 19:17:16 GMT -5
I have been on a boat that had the riggers off the back of the boat. When an individual decided to lend a hand and bring in the one straight out the back while the captain was busy doing something else. Well to say the least I was shocked when they grabbed the line to pull in the ball and whacked it into the motor. The sound was awful and to top it off they pull the ball again and whack. I made up my mind I would not be putting a downrigger behind my motors.
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Post by fishing eagle on Feb 15, 2011 19:31:10 GMT -5
Wellsley I think you and I have fished with some of the same people at one time or another. They either just don't care when they are in someone elses boat or they are just to dumb to know the difference.
You are welcome to join me anytime to go fishing.
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Post by ballsdeep5 on Feb 17, 2011 8:35:34 GMT -5
Hello,
Thanks for all your help and advice! It is so greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, the Proline didn’t work out and now I am on the market for yet another boat. I am headed to down VA this weekend to possibly pick up a 22ft Bayliner Trophy 2052 WA. However, sounds like Bayliners have a stink about them? Any light on why these boats get such a bad rap? Hope everyone is going to enjoy the warm weather we are about to get– let the sap run!
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Post by fishinmachine on Feb 17, 2011 11:27:45 GMT -5
I heard when bayliner first came out they had a problem with hull integrety but I beleive they fixed that problem,,,depends on how old the boat is, the dealers would know better 'n me
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Post by Goldie Lox on Feb 21, 2011 9:24:51 GMT -5
When I was in the market for a boat I was told not to buy a trophy. The person told me that they are very hard to work on. We ended up buying Aquasport. I am very pleased with our boat and it's very easy to add equipment to.
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Post by Petesdraggon on Feb 22, 2011 18:54:45 GMT -5
I have a 2052. Bought her new in 2000. I have had zero problems with the hull.
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Post by Petesdraggon on Feb 23, 2011 19:23:47 GMT -5
This is my setup. It works fine, no problems. I do have to pay close attention on turns, and when the waves are coming against the stern. Only myself or someone I truly trust to pay attention will work that side of the boat. So far, so good. Pete Attachments:
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