Diving Disks

[metovt]

I just picked up a couple of disks from Big Jon. One is a mini and the other is Deep'r disk both are black. Big Jon claims the mini will dive to 30' and the Deep'r will dive to 45'. BS or straight up?

Big Jon suggests a 4' leader from the disk to the lure and a swivel connecting the lure line to the disk. Does anyone have a better method they would like to share?

Big Jon also claims at 2 MPH the disk will dive about one foot for every two feet of line let out. Are those consistent results you've seen?

Thanks for any help,

Jim

[4cs (Pat)]

Jim

We have the Luhr Jensen's dipsey divers and they have a chart that comes with them that is a dive curve with different line diameters at a certain speed. You have to remember that with 20lb mono it not dive as deep as 12lb mono or as deep as with a braided line like Fireline or wire line. As for leaders to the lure we use a length that is compatible to the rod, if we are running them on a 8'6" rod we will use a 6' to 8' leader, you catch my drift LOL. The mini disk have a good pull and you need a stiff rod, the larger disk pull real hard and you need a med. to heavy rod on those. I will get my little chart out for the dipeys and give you some info on those.

Pat

[metovt]

Thanks Pat. These are the charts from Big Jon. I was just wondering how accurate they were. I guess I'll find out!

Jim

[4cs (Pat)]

Jim

I just looked at my depth chart for my dipseys and the match up pretty well to your deep'r diver so they are in the ball park, haven't run my yet this year will be interesting to see how they do.

Pat

[metovt]

Well Pat, with temps looking to break 90 this weekend I figured I better get ready to go deep or at least deeper. I hope to get out there tomorrow for a while.

Unless something shows up to graze on my lawn I've got a little mowing to do. I'm afraid when (if) that sun finally comes out I won't be able to see the house! Oh well we could be shoveling....

[champlain fisher]

I have some divers called fish seekers, they pull very easy. You don't see much of a difference in the bend of the rod. They are adjustable as well and there is a chart on the back of the package that shows how to set them for the depth you want - real simple to use.

Here is a link to them
www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0002058010628a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=fish+seeker&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=fish+seeker&noImage=0

[sonny8888]

I don't know how far down the dipsys go but I've had good luck with them when I have a big crew on the boat and want to put out more lines than I'm comfortable with on the downriggers. I've run them off planner boards to get a wider spread. On days when I don't get anything on the riggers unless i'm down 20' or more I've caught fish on the dipsys. So, they must be getting fairly deep.

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Jim,

Great chart. They don't mention what line test that this data is derived from.

[voyager]

Check out this month's issue of In-fisherman magazine. They have a great article on fishing for walleye's with dipsey's and jet divers. My guess is that the same techniques will work on salmon too.

[metovt]

No Digitroll they didn't and but were certain to emphasize that the chart is just an estimate as line size, speed and lure size will all effect the depth. I guess it gives you a place to start.

Thanks Voyager I'll take a look at that article.

I was able to take a small brown today on the min-diver so I was excited to see it worked!

Jim

[Raz]

Jim--glad to hear you hooked up. Usually you'll find the browns a little higher than salmon. I lost a big brown yesterday--it got into a line still on the downrigger, when I released the line the fish got tangled into, the line the fish was on snapped. I got one good look at it. It was huge and I couldn't keep it from getting into my other line. Should have gotten that line out of the way when I had the chance.

[metovt]

That sounds like quite a show ;D

[salmoneye]

Jun 8, 2008 17:54:30 GMT -5 Raz said:

Jim--glad to hear you hooked up. Usually you'll find the browns a little higher than salmon. I lost a big brown yesterday--it got into a line still on the downrigger, when I released the line the fish got tangled into, the line the fish was on snapped. I got one good look at it. It was huge and I couldn't keep it from getting into my other line. Should have gotten that line out of the way when I had the chance.

It is a bugger alone...When I have someone else with me, I pass the rod off and clear lines as fast as I can...

[Raz]

Jun 9, 2008 5:29:10 GMT -5 salmoneye said:

Jun 8, 2008 17:54:30 GMT -5 Raz said:

Jim--glad to hear you hooked up. Usually you'll find the browns a little higher than salmon. I lost a big brown yesterday--it got into a line still on the downrigger, when I released the line the fish got tangled into, the line the fish was on snapped. I got one good look at it. It was huge and I couldn't keep it from getting into my other line. Should have gotten that line out of the way when I had the chance.

It is a bugger alone...When I have someone else with me, I pass the rod off and clear lines as fast as I can...

I definitely learned a lesson from that episode. No more shenanigans for me mister.