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Post by hairbone on Jul 28, 2011 15:42:17 GMT -5
That guy Ehlers is a pompous a__ !!!! You can see the grin on his face when he says they all read the rules That video should be enbedded to a post and stickied to the top of this board!
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Post by rvq on Jul 28, 2011 20:29:13 GMT -5
i missed the interview (but will watch it) and might have my info crossed BUT doesn't the guy that owns/runs the LCI have stake in the Outdoors magazine ? if so its going through bankruptcy like the rumors say , that to me would explain why the prizes would less this year...even if its not morally right but i could be way off on my info , it s just what i heard and pieced together ...anyone know if i m even close to accurate with reliable info ?
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Post by An Bradon Charters on Jul 28, 2011 22:38:47 GMT -5
i missed the interview (but will watch it) and might have my info crossed BUT doesn't the guy that owns/runs the LCI have stake in the Outdoors magazine ? if so its going through bankruptcy like the rumors say , that to me would explain why the prizes would less this year...even if its not morally right but i could be way off on my info , it s just what i heard and pieced together ...anyone know if i m even close to accurate with reliable info ? Bob, Loss for words? Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com
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Post by fishinmachine on Jul 29, 2011 4:44:06 GMT -5
out of 260 views only 14 people had interest enough to make a comment, what's up with that? where are the LCI lovers now? Are you scared to comment or are you just too embarassed? or don't you give a damn? I just don't understand why so many fail to be outraged by this behavior of the LCI...are there no positive comments?
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Post by lazybones on Jul 29, 2011 10:21:45 GMT -5
out of 260 views only 14 people had interest enough to make a comment, what's up with that? where are the LCI lovers now? Are you scared to comment or are you just too embarassed? or don't you give a damn? I just don't understand why so many fail to be outraged by this behavior of the LCI...are there no positive comments? The LCI debate has raged on for months here. Those of us who offered our thoughts have already done so and those that see it for what it really is are being proven right. There isn't really any reason to comment again as it would only come across in an "I told you so" sort of way. I cancelled my subscription to Vermont Outdoors Magazine a long time ago because of Ehler's attitude and I haven't given a cent to the LCI in many years. Short of picketing in front of the office I don't know how else I can express my outrage other than by keeping my money to myself. I think the fact the the LCI defenders aren't saying anything says quite a bit.
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Post by lateforsupper on Jul 29, 2011 10:25:03 GMT -5
I have talked to someone who tells me that LCI is trying to fix some of these issues for next year so lets give them a chance and see what happens I for one hope things change because I still like fishing the LCI. In James defense they did pay out exactly what they said they would and if the insurance company would not insure the record then they did what they thought would make people happy and maybe they where wrong everybody deserves a second chance so this will be my last comment on this until I see what next year has to offer.
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Post by 1badboy on Jul 29, 2011 10:49:58 GMT -5
does nobody know if i m correct in thinking or am i that far off ?
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Post by goodbrewing on Jul 29, 2011 11:19:29 GMT -5
Yes we all know many of you have issues with the LCI. We have seen the same people bashing it every chance they get on multiple threads here. Many of the same people that bashed it for not canceling this year, even though they were still fishing with the high water, came back with stories about the great time they had fishing in it this year. Go figure. And I didn't see or hear about 1 single accident, Injury or damaged boat but I didn't go back and rub your noses in the fact you were all wrong. Many of you just seem like you are kids trying to pick fights. Yes they made changes and I don't know 1 person that is happy about them but I and many others will or have let the folks at LCI know about it. I hope to see changes for the better next year but if not they will not get my $30. I use it more as an excuse to fish for 3 days than a money making endeavor so I pay the minimum and usually make it back on port prizes. This year it was 4 passes to see the Lake Monsters. If you fall for all the extras that is your gamble. Just like the lottery the odds are slim. Everyone knew the structure had changed so it might have been a good idea to read and understand the rules before throwing in your money and complaining later. I agree LCI could have done more to let people know a few things and I agree a few things look kind of shady but I will decide if I want to take part next year after I read and understand the rules.
Now do any of you that are bashing the LCI for making money ever give blood? You do know the red cross sells it and pays their executives very large salaries don't you? Yes they do some good in the communities but they also pay themselves very well. How about the United way? Are you so lazy that you have to give a middleman a percentage of your donation just so they can give your money to a charity. And what do they do with their cut? They pad their wallets. I can go on and on with examples of so called non profits that make a killing off your money but I hope you get my point. We all know who hates the LCI and why. Do we really need a new post every week with the same tired arguments?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 12:17:53 GMT -5
Goodbrewing are you on the LCI payroll??
Sure appears that way....
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Post by goodbrewing on Jul 29, 2011 12:35:22 GMT -5
Goodbrewing are you on the LCI payroll?? Sure appears that way.... Nope. I just call it like I see it.
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Post by lateforsupper on Jul 29, 2011 13:15:44 GMT -5
1badboy from what I understand James sold elk publishing in 2005. I don't know any more details
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Post by 1badboy on Jul 29, 2011 14:33:23 GMT -5
Oh i thought he was still part of it , thats why the LCI was always a good protion of the magazine ...wasnt sure though coulda been all gossip as far as i knew , was just wondering ....
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Post by fishing eagle on Jul 29, 2011 16:33:26 GMT -5
I have not fished the LCI in a number of years because they cheated my son who was a young kid at the time out of a prize that he should have rightfully recieved. Cheat me once, shame on you; but cheat me twice and shame on me! Now when you cheat my kids.... wow you have really shot yourself in the foot. I personally would love to see the LCI go bye bye unless all new people were involved and the rules get changed in many ways.
I did watch the TV yesterday with the interview and I thought Ehlers was an arrogant SOB. I would love to see the Attorney Generals for NY state and Vermont investigate Ehlers and the LCI. Remember the LCI is held in waters of both states. I also just read the July 13th edition of Sam's Good News and Don Chioffi did a good article the LCI and the WCAX story that was in the works at that time.
We all can make a big difference in the operation of the LCI. All we real sportsman have to do is to ban together in 2012 and not enter the LCI. Easy solution and end of story...
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Post by fishing eagle on Jul 29, 2011 16:43:44 GMT -5
Yes Ehlers states that they all read the rules and signed the entry form stating so. Then he stated that the rules are not any longer in the Gazette but they are posted on line.
Hmmm I wonder how many fishermen or women don't own a computer so that they can read rules on line. Yes there are a number of folks that love to fish and have never used a computer or who can't afford a personal computer.
Gee do you think Ehlers sounds like a Lawyer?
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Post by bomber on Jul 29, 2011 18:41:15 GMT -5
Goodbrewing This is the LCI Board thread so thats why folks post stuff related to the LCI on here. I suggest you don't read the LCI board if it upsets you.
Discussion of LCI issues could be good for the LCI. Maybe they will listen and fix some of the issues that are making folks upset.
I know people from the LCI read this forum. Why they chose not to defend themselves I don't know.
Goodbrewing, I take offense to you pretty much calling everyone on here idiots.
Captain Bill Birch
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