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Post by An Bradon Charters on Aug 29, 2010 21:30:23 GMT -5
I wasn't going to mention this, but what the heck, lord hates a coward. Does anyone else besides me think that the latest fishing reports that mention the small sizes and poor fishing is a symptom of what I am talking about? YES SIR, YES SIR, YES SIR!! I am not a college educated biologist who studies lake Champlain fisheries. But with the amount of Bass tournaments HELD ON lake Champlain at this time. It is not rocket science to think that this fishery can stand such pressure. As was said previously look what happened to the walleye fishing on Champlain due to the mentality of there are plenty of fish here with great habitat etc. I am guilty of this myself as a child growing up. I caught and harvested so many Walleye it would make your head spin. Now I feel privileged to catch any quality walleye. As Fish machine posted I would also support a non cash payment system. As I have said before start with the Bass tournaments as they have the hi est amount of tournaments on the lake. But certainly keep going to eliminate all fishing for cash. I certainly would like to here some biologist who have more information on this subject. Lastly, Hey bass Tourney guys who are reading this, how about posting the results and such of the latest FLW held on Champlain? Inquiring minds want to know??? Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com
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Post by schodackbassman on Aug 29, 2010 22:38:05 GMT -5
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Post by brian on Aug 29, 2010 22:46:59 GMT -5
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Post by An Bradon Charters on Aug 30, 2010 6:08:31 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that. 150 pro anglers,150 amateur anglers, 5 fish limits for both for 3 days. If my math is correct that is 4500 bass caught from all parts of the lake and relocated to plattsburg. that sure is allot of relocated bass. Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com
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Post by maefly on Aug 30, 2010 6:18:30 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that. 150 pro anglers,150 amateur anglers, 5 fish limits for both for 3 days. If my math is correct that is 4500 bass caught from all parts of the lake and relocated to plattsburg. that sure is allot of relocated bass. Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com Have no fear Tony, the other 9 tournies over the weekend brought them all back home. ;D
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Post by bassgeek (Brock) on Aug 30, 2010 6:47:01 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that. 150 pro anglers,150 amateur anglers, 5 fish limits for both for 3 days. If my math is correct that is 4500 bass caught from all parts of the lake and relocated to plattsburg. that sure is allot of relocated bass. Capt. Tony www.anbradoncharters.com Have no fear Tony, the other 9 tournies over the weekend brought them all back home. ;D Do you guys even have a clue that most of the tournaments on Lake Champlain and other lakes through out the state are small club tournaments? We had a grand total of 8 people fishing in one of those 9 tournies this weekend. As far as the 4500 relocated fish. Those 300 anglers would have the legal right to take home 3000 bass with them. Hey maybe we should make it illegal for charter captains to get paid for taking clients out on the lake. They are catching and sometimes having clients take fish home for pay. By the way, I won my club tournament yesterday and brought home nothing other than the pride of beating my friends in the club. We love what we do. I am sorry some of you are having a hard time catching fish this year. Have you thought that it may be changing conditions in the lake this year and over time? Zebra mussels have made the water much clearer (in general harder to catch bass in very clear water). The water level in the lake is lower than it is in most years (fish may not be in the spots you are accustomed to catching them in). The weeds in the south end of the lake are in terrible shape dying or covered in slime (no fish here dummy spots, this certainly applies to me). Alewives, the bait-fish everyone raves about (the bass maybe holding in places we are not used to because they maybe relating to alewives which I believe tend to be a more open water fish). Just food for thought.
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Post by maefly on Aug 30, 2010 7:07:42 GMT -5
Have no fear Tony, the other 9 tournies over the weekend brought them all back home. ;D Do you guys even have a clue that most of the tournaments on Lake Champlain and other lakes through out the state are small club tournaments? We had a grand total of 8 people fishing in one of those 9 tournies this weekend. As far as the 4500 relocated fish. Those 300 anglers would have the legal right to take home 3000 bass with them. Hey maybe we should make it illegal for charter captains to get paid for taking clients out on the lake. They are catching and sometimes having clients take fish home for pay. By the way, I won my club tournament yesterday and brought home nothing other than the pride of beating my friends in the club. We love what we do. I am sorry some of you are having a hard time catching fish this year. Have you thought that it may be changing conditions in the lake this year and over time? Zebra mussels have made the water much clearer (in general harder to catch bass in very clear water). The water level in the lake is lower than it is in most years (fish may not be in the spots you are accustomed to catching them in). The weeds in the south end of the lake are in terrible shape dying or covered in slime (no fish here dummy spots, this certainly applies to me). Alewives, the bait-fish everyone raves about (the bass maybe holding in places we are not used to because they maybe relating to alewives which I believe tend to be a more open water fish). Just food for thought. I agree with some of this Brock, but the 3 tournies out of Ti this weekend had ALOT more than 8 people fishing. I have never been against bass tournies, just the ammount of them.
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Post by salmoneye on Aug 30, 2010 7:38:22 GMT -5
Hey maybe we should make it illegal for charter captains to get paid for taking clients out on the lake. They are catching and sometimes having clients take fish home for pay. I wondered who else saw the logical connection there...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2010 8:19:33 GMT -5
Sounds logical to me Paul. My late Dad years ago often wondered why there wasn't some kind of excise tax levied on "Charter Captains". This money could be used to restock the lake from the fish kept caught commercially.
Isn't this commercial fishing by definition?
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Post by maefly on Aug 30, 2010 9:20:28 GMT -5
I could see the logic in that if there were several hundred charter boats from far and wide all bringing their customers here on weekends from spring until fall. But the handfull we have taking vacationers and people without boats that like to catch a fish once in awhile ?
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Post by schodackbassman on Aug 30, 2010 9:28:45 GMT -5
Congrats on the win Brock. Pride and busting your buddies chops is better then money any day... That's my idea of a tournament. You guys would be out fishing anyway. At the same time you guys are not traveling 20 to 100 miles at 60-70 in rough water so you aren't beating the tar out of the fish. That's not the case a lot of the time. If you got a decent live well, there shouldn't be a problem if bass are handled properly. Not always the case when fisherman are going long distances.
As far as tough fishing goes, it's tough every year this time of the season. It isn't going to pick up again until late September October. I plan to be up there a lot in October.
I am concerned about the lamprey hit and other strange marks on fish. I observed the same marking Gary did but in part of the lake a few miles away. That is a concern. Did your members come across fish with sores or lamprey marks Saturday?
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Post by lateforsupper on Aug 30, 2010 11:16:00 GMT -5
I dont think you guys are really worried about dead bass floating ashore I think youre more worried about somebody catching afew fish and making a little money while they have fun.not everybody can afford to fish as much as they would like.so some people fish tournaments ,some become charter boat capt.some fish panfish and sell them.some become guides.but either way nobody should worry about what reason people fish for they should be glad they FISH and there not out trying to come up with a reason why you shouldnt be able to FISH.no amount of fishermen can ever do as much damage to fish as the state legislators,sea lamprey and cormarants have done .and in a bad economy anything that brings money into tha area has got to help.
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Post by maefly on Aug 30, 2010 12:15:20 GMT -5
OK, I admit defeat. I'll never bring it up again. As a parting comment I'll just say I hope future generations dont sit around dreaming of what the bass fishing USED to be on Champlain, all because we had to have everything right now. Happy fishing everyone.
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Post by sleepswithdafishes on Aug 30, 2010 12:28:25 GMT -5
There is no rite or wrong on this issue!!! We all use a wonderful body of water lake champlain just lets not forget common sense and if we abuse our privelege of using the lake we have nobody to blame but ourselves.!! Go out and enjoy!!! Sleeps
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Post by snobbinsbasscat on Aug 30, 2010 13:43:19 GMT -5
Gary, I wasn't at the meeting where they imposed the moratorium. I was at the meetings with both state federations that represent the bass clubs in the state and both meetings ended with a "we will not fight this" stance. That is why there was little representation to fight the moratorium. Like I said, I didn't agree with it but the masses outweighed the few and we, as a bass community, allowed the state to keep us from having tournaments that weekend.
Just an FYI. Tto my knowledge, NY hasn't done anything of the type. The tournament on the south end of the lake that started this craziness was out of Ti and there is nothing stopping it from happening again. We had a club tournament out of Rouses Point on youth weekend last year.
How hard can it be to shoot a duck anyway? I feed them all the time in the marinas...
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